Post: #1

http://www.goingchurching.com/?p=105

Yes it does!

"G"

Post: #2

Yes it does!!

I'd like to give you the opportunity George to back up your claim.Something I've suggested you rarely do.

Btw, Nice touch bringing Haggart into the “evidence”. As if this guy narrating the video is squeaky clean and has nothing hiding in the closet to be ashamed of.

I’d like to present to you a challenge George. However, I’m pretty confident you won’t take me up on it.

First of all you took this guy at his word. You have no idea who this guy is, or do you know his reputation. You like what he says, therefore, he must be trustworthy.

Lets see how trustworthy he is George. I challenge you to take any two of the “contradictions” he pointed out.
Then allow me to show you they aren’t contradictions at all. You pick the two. My guess is you won’t do it, for fear that I will do what I say I will do. You rather go on believing that there are contradictions, when there aren’t any. You rather not someone show you that this person is wrong and so are you to believe him. You would rather lead people astray with a lie.

Go ahead pick two George…any two.

This post was last modified: Jul 23, 2008 08:32 PM by EdTwo.

Post: #3

This is all sophistry.
It is a deceptive use to divert from the message of God that He loves us and only wants good for us.
The man is a raving liberal and Haggart should not be leading a church.

When this stuff comes up, the poster is invariably trying to confuse or stifle real critical debate by swamping any discussion with quantity.

If he had been specific as EdTwo suggests, then maybe we would have ground for debate. With so many points to answer, most, including me, cannot be bothered to answer his ignorance.

George, your desperation to convice Christians of the rightness of your cause is tiring.

Post: #4

Ok Ed,

How about these two:

1) The Iron Chariots statement vs. God being absolutely powerful. Judges 1:19
2) The statement on god's wrath. Jeremiah 3:12 vs. Micah 7:18

See, I wasn't nearly as scared as you thought I would be!

Malcom,

This was not posted in a desperation to convince Christians of the rightness of my cause. It has been established by Ed, many times before that there isn't a single contradiction throughout the entire bible. This was my response to those claims. I understand that you guys would like to degrade my character, lowering my reputation, but it's just dishonest of you. You're Christians, you're supposed to be better than that.

"G"

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Also Malcom,

I think it's funny that you would label anything as sophistry, when comparing it to the "message of God." Absolute discourse about the supernatural is the most absurd form of sophistry, because there isn't even a single ounce of evidence to support the claims. If the guy in this video is wrong, it's because of his misunderstanding of text. If you are wrong, it's because you are going on about things that are in the world of mystical imagination.

"G"

This post was last modified: Jul 24, 2008 10:02 AM by ggeorge2814.

Post: #5

One more thing Malcom,

With so many points to answer, most, including me, cannot be bothered to answer his ignorance.

You can't take the time to respond to a 9 minute video? Because there are too many points to answer, you can't be bothered? Your laziness allows you to call his claims ignorance? I just needed to point these things out for the crowd.

"G"

Post: #6

“It has been established by Ed, many times before that there isn't a single contradiction throughout the entire bible. This was my response to those claims. I understand that you guys would like to degrade my character, lowering my reputation, but it's just dishonest of you. You're Christians, you're supposed to be better than that.”


There is absolutely nothing dishonest to claim there are no contradictions in the Bible.Why? Because I can back up that statement.

You on the other hand, could post 100 of these alleged “contradiction” they would all have the same result after looking at them more closely, they’re not contradictions at all.

You make the claim there are contradictions, having no idea if its true or not.You believe people in which you have no idea of what their reputation is. You George have yet to ever shown one "contradiction" that could stand up to scrutiny. Its your character that should come into question, calling me dishonest.

“1) The Iron Chariots statement vs. God being absolutely powerful. Judges 1:19”

"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19

The 'he' in the Judges verse refers to Judah, not to God. It was Judah was unable to drive out the inhabitants. Its Judah that is not omnipotent. This is not a contradiction George.

2) The statement on god's wrath. Jeremiah 3:12 vs. Micah 7:18
"Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever." Jer 3:12

Who is a God like you,who pardons sin and forgives the transgression
of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. . Micah 7:18

The point or the subject here is not God.The point is the object of God's anger.anger,us!
He does get angry with His children when they disobey, but, He’s willing to forgive them when they repent.
However, He is eternally angry at those who don’t repent and who rebel against Him and have disdain for His mercy.

This is also not a contradiction.
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George, you are leading people astray with your lie that there are
contradictions in the Bible. The sad thing is, that's what Satan does.
He leads people away from God, with lies.